My TDM and my Buddies FJ1200 up at "Devils Bridge",Kirby Longsdale (feb 2009) As you can see I have made,yes home's made some side frames for panniers,or to keep soft panniers away from the pannels exaust etc. No body made the side frames for the old TDM so I got the welder out.....they bolt onto the passinger foot peg mount and to the "Rentek" top rack that has the "Givi" base plate bolted to it.So now I can have either hard Givi's or soft lugauge or combinations of.